Early Christians were expelled from the welfare systems of the day run by the state churches of the world government of its time, the Roman Empire. They then appointed ministers to handle their tithes to the poor but not men to rule over them and their herediments. And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples [unto them], and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables (bank).[Strong's No. 5132 trapeza ... the table or stand of a money changer, where he sits, exchanging different kinds of money for a fee (agio), and paying back with interest loans or deposits. ] Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business. (Acts 6:1, 3)

      Jealousy, envy, and greed brought persecution to the early Christians as they became successful in their separate and holy Kingdom, established by Jesus the Christ (anointed king). They moved with jealousy, envy, why? Because Christians were exempt from their burdens and were not afraid to live the Life God had intended for men. Christians shamed the faithless mob that went under tribute returning to the mire they had been plucked from so many years before.

      Christians were persecuted. Those persecutions kept the Body of Christians pure from the corruption that was so prevalent in that day and now in our own time.

      When Constantine legalized the church, with the edict of Milan, some were already on the road to corruption. As the legal church began a fornicating relationship with the kingdoms of men, true Christians departed to the remote ends of the earth. Christians were eventually persecuted by both the kingdoms of men and the legal churches, reciprocally empowered by each other.

      Today, legal churches are not incorporated in the body of Christ, but in the body of man made governments. The few duties that the church still performs are done so by the authority vested in them by the state.

      They still claim their right to tithe but have relinquished the obligation of the daily ministration to the state, having squandered the tithing on temples of stone and wood and glass. These churches claim that God has ordained that men should not only bow down to these governments but that we are to serve them with our sweat and our blood.

      "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." [ Benjamin Franklin]

      Men in the world today have returned to the corvee' slavery that God had taken them from in Egypt. Because of the subtle economic and social oppression, women cast out their children by the tens of thousands each year in government endorsed abortions. Large sections of the population feast on the sweat and blood of those living souls who toil in service to man made institutions. The prophetic warnings of Samuel are accepted as the should be fate of all Christians.

      If we are to listen to the apostate churches we would have to conclude that Enos should have built a city, that Cain was right in establishing the city of Enoch; Abraham should have stayed in Ur or at least in Haran; the Israelites were better off in Egypt; that Paul should not have departed from Rome; and that we should serve the United States Federal Democracy, its Emperor (Commander in chief), its Principas Civitas (first citizen, chief executive officer) and its Theos (god, ruling magistrate, appointor of justices)[The three offices delivered after election, solemnized by oath, to Caesar Augustus and other subsequent rulers of that day and this day.]

      Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. (Ga 5:1)

      Abram paid tribute in Ur and again in Heron but when he wandered in the wilderness he burned his tribute up since he knew not whom to give it to. He would not even take his just reward from Sodom. Not even a buckle because that wealth had been collect by enforced taxation not voluntary contribution.

      The Israelites fell under tribute in Egypt because of their treachery with their brother Joseph.

      Acts 7:9 And the patriarchs, moved with envy, sold Joseph into Egypt: but God was with him,

      Moses brought them out of that bondage of tribute, where for four hundred years they paid their tribute voluntarily to the temple.

      "Redemption is deliverance from the power of an alien dominion and the enjoyment of the resulting freedom. It involves the idea of restoration to one who possesses a more fundamental right or interest. The best example of redemption in the Old Testament was the deliverance of the children of Israel from bondage, from the dominion of the alien power in Egypt." [10 Zondervan's Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, the word "redemption" ]

      Then men fell again and asked for a King. Saul, David and Solomon. Solomon and then his son burdened the people with abusive tribute which broke the kingdom. Israel by the time Jesus came was more like the heathen Gentiles than what Moses showed them.

      Again they had returned to the mire of tribute and bondage sinning as they had done from the beginning. Even the temple was collecting Corban which was nothing more than modern Social Security System and we know what Jesus said about that.

      Mark 7:10, 13 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

      Jesus redeemed them into a better kingdom with a king that did not have blood on his hands.

      You owe tribute, an excise tax on your service, because you have gone under the authority of another by taking a Social Security employee identification number and waived a right to a portion of your labor.

      If you pay tribute your service and God given labor is under authority.You are a servant and a slave like the Israelites in Egypt where God brought you out.

      The man who wrote Roman's 13 also wrote:

      1 Corinthians 7:21 Art thou called [being] a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use [it] rather.

      If you owe the tax pay the tax but if you don't owe the tax don't go under the authority of the tax for a bowl of porridge or anything else.

      1 Corinthians 6:12 . All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

      Peter told you what would happen if you coveted their dainties and David and Solomon too.

      2 Peter 2:3 . And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

      Incline not my heart to [any] evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties. Psalms 141:4

      When thou sittest to eat with a ruler, consider diligently what is before thee: And put a knife to thy throat, if thou be a man given to appetite. Be not desirous of his dainties: for they are deceitful meat. Proverbs 23:1, 3

      Proverbs 12:24 . The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.

      2 Peter 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

      So let us read Peter again in context of the message.

      The statement begins:

      "Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

      Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; [Who should be Jesus unless you have taken oaths to someone else.] Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: [silence who? "speak against you as evildoers,"] As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God. [You are free of tribute but your good works should abound like Abraham who risked all and saved many but would not take pay. Christians do not enter into contracts with the Beast praying for his protection and security but they pay their tribute to God by giving of themselves willingly.] Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king. [There are three different Greek words in the New Testament that are translated into 'honour'. Here we find the word 'timao' {tim-ah'-o} meaning "to estimate, fix the value 1a) for the value of something belonging to one's self". If you are free then you decide what you owe your neighbor and the kings and governors of the land where you go.] Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. [If you are a servant or have gone under tribute by striking hands or with the words of your mouth like Peter did with the tax that was paid by the dead fish, then be good subjects if you cannot free yourselves. This is so when the unrighteous mammon fails you will be worthy of the righteous.] For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God. For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously: Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls." 1 Peter 2:11, 25

Remember:

      Ephesians 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so [let] the wives [be] to their own husbands in every thing.

      Colossians 2:20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

      If we are subject to Christ can we be subject to Billy too? Can we serve two masters?

      Is the CHURCH a government?

      The government says it is.

      "Church. In its most general sense, the religious society founded and established by Jesus Christ, to receive, preserve, and propagate his doctrines and ordinances."

      "A body or community of Christians, united under one form of government by the profession of one faith, and the observance of the same rituals and ceremonies." Black's Law Dictionary 3rd ed. Page 325. also 4th, 5th 6th Ed.

      It is established by Jesus and it is a body under one form of government. It is a body politic, the corporation of Jesus the King. The UN, US and the Un holy Roman Empire says that the Vatican is the Church. I say that the Church is composed of those who let the Lord write his laws on their hearts and minds.

      Hebrews 8:10 For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

      Matthew 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all;....

      James 5:12 . But above all things, my brethren, swear not,...

      Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

      Now read Romans 13 in context:

      1 . Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. [Who is the higher power and how did they get to be the higher power? Did you go under their authority or they the higher power for others and your higher power is Jesus.] For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.[ They are ordained by the law of contract, debt and oath. If you say yes to them, if you become a surety then they are a higher power. If you don't they aren't. Simple. Of course they may exclude you from their benefits.]

      Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [ Risisteth is from antitassomai meaning to "1) to range in battle against". The American Revolution was not a revolt. The king was breaking the law.

      "There was a secondary line upon which much skirmishing took place and which some Americans regarded as the main field of battle. The colonial charters seemed to offer an impregnable defense against abuses of parliamentary power because they were supposed to be compacts between the king and people of the colonies; which, while confirming royal authority in America, denied by implication the right of Parliament to intervene in colonial affairs. Charters were grants of the king and made no mention of the parliament. They were even thought to hold good against the King, for it was believed that the King derived all the power he enjoyed in the colonies from the compacts he had made with the settlers. Some colonists went so far to claim that they were granted by the King of Kings-and therefore no earthly Potentate can take them away.'" The Other Side of the Question, by a Citizen, New York, 1774, 16.
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      John Adams said that when the grantees of the "Massachusetts Bay Charter carried it to America they `got out of the English realm, dominions, state, empire, call it by what name you will, and out of the legal jurisdiction of the Parliament. The king might, by his writ or proclamation, have commanded him to return; but he did not. By this interpretation, the charters accorded Americans' all the rights and privileges of a natural free-born subject of Great Britain and gave colonial assemblies the sole right of imposing taxes." [Principles and Acts of the Revolution, edited by H. Niles, 16.]

      "Accordingly, when Americans were told that they had no constitutional basis for their claim of execution from parliamentary authority, they answered, 'Our Charters have done it absolutely.' 'And if one protests,' remarked a Tory, 'the answer is, You are an Enemy to America, and ought to have your brains beat out.'" [174-175 Origins of the American Revolution by John C. Miller.] The real Revolution was the Constitution of the United States. Don't think so?

Was the Constitution of the United States ever ratified and what is its true source of authority? There has been serious questions raised and continuous arguments made about the lawful passing of certain amendments. The fact is the Constitution of the United States was never ratified according to the law at the time.
"If a constitution expressly provides that it may be amended only in a certain way and another way followed, such and attempted amendment is illegal; but if it is acquiesced in it becomes effective as a peaceful revolution such as took place when the United States Constitution took effect upon the ratification by nine states in spite of the fact that the old Articles of Confederation provided that they should not be amended without unanimous consent of the states." Clark's Sum. of American Law, Constitutional Law Chapt 1, .1 p. 462.
THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT A LAWFUL DOCUMENT
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      For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. [Of course if he operates outside of his authority you are not revolting or resisting but standing for truth and protection of the innocent, like David and Goliath.] Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: For he is the minister of God to thee for good. [With in the range of his authority.] But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; [If he does what is evil he should be afraid] for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [And there are many evil people out there but now if they are calling good evil and evil good then they are nut ordained of God but are tyrannical beasts that should be told off in God's time.] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. [If you are subject be subject but this was written by the one who said he would not go under the authority of any.] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: [This is the theme: if you owe the tax pay it.] for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. [Is that the case today or have they strayed from their true authority.]7

      Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due;[ if it is due pay it] custom to whom custom; [be respectful] fear to whom fear;[ [Fear the Lord above all] honour to whom honour. [Honor where they are honerable.] 8

      Owe no man any thing, [pay your debts but do not go under debt, do not become a surety

      Proverbs 11:15 He that is surety for a stranger shall smart [for it]: and he that hateth suretiship is sure. Proverbs 17:18 A man void of understanding striketh hands, [and] becometh surety in the presence of his friend. Hebrews 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. ] but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.] For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. Romans 13:1, 10

      No more tribute is owed than to love your neighbor and serve your God.

      There is no call to go under the service of false gods. Gregory at the ekklesia Church http://presys.com/~ekklesia/welcome.htm Dear Gregory, Thank you. This ties all together as well as could be asked. With this and my own knowledge of American jurisprudence, I believe myself to be equipped. Any who cannot hear this message are on thier own........

Timothy

Timothy,

Here is a list of Bible quotes that help put Romans 13 into percpective. I made it along time ago.

Romans 13 and Ro 11:8,10; 1Cor 6:12, 20 & 7:21; 2Cor 6: 14, 18; Ex 20 & 23:24, 32 & 34:12, 15; Le 25:17; De 25:4; Jud 10:14; 1Sa 8:5, 22 & 10:17, 19; Ps 141:4; Pr 12:14 & 23:1,3 & 26:11, 16; Dn 7:14; Is 9:6; Jer 5:7.Mt 5:32, 37 & 21:42, 43& 22:15, 22 & 28:18 & 23:13; Lu 22:25, 33; Jn 8:33, 36 & 19: 12, 15; Ac 17:7; Ga 5:1; Eph 1:20, 21; Col 2:10; 2 Ths 2:3, 16; Ja 2:5, 6 & 4:4, 8 & 5:12; 2 Pe 2; 2Cor 4:8, 9 etc. etc.etc.

Ignorance and vanity tempered with apathy and avarice are the greatest allies to tyranny. So what is the authority that makes the Constitution of the United States and its Amendments the law of the land and the authority in our lives?

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